Although Jiren appeared to be stronger initially, Goku's ever-growing strength proved to be too much for him by the end. If broly was trained correctly AND could reach the likes of ssgss or even ssg he'd probably kill all of them. People don’t seem to realize just how much Goku has increased in power since the ToP, they’re absolutely incomparable! Goku, in his normal Super Saiyan transformations, isn't good enough for Jiren, and as of right now, he cannot, by will, tap into Ultra Instinct. I would see UI Goku and Jiren are not far off from Beerus though. Top. All of the gods and angels were in awe of Jiren. Vegeta and Goku try to attack Jiren together and it ends really badly for both of them. The fact that there is someone more powerful than Jiren should be considered a real latent threat to anyone who is considered an enemy. For those who are awaiting leaks about the animated series, they know perfectly well that video games like “Dragon ball heroes” or “Dragon Ball Xenoverse,” usually bring us one or another revelation on their platforms that happened in the original plot of the Series. Therefore, it’s hard to give a concrete answer to this question. Goku is stronger than Gohan in the manga series. Jiren is not a villain, however. So, who is stronger Goku or Gohan? Time_Hero 7 months ago #23. Of course, it was unrealistic to expect Vegeta to beat Jiren. Take Gohan, for example, who at the age of 11 became stronger than every other member of the Dragon Team when he tapped into Super Saiyan 2. A stronger MUI Goku who stomped someone stronger than Jiren vs said dude who lost against a weaker MUI. Later in episode 130, Goku surpasses Jiren’s hidden power which was stronger than his full power. If that’s true, then Jiren, who has the power of a god, could really be stronger than all other Dragon Ball villains, including the Legendary Super Saiyan himself. Goku has yet to beat the first 3 in a 1v1 fight. As the hero of the story, Goku's main goal, besides saving the Earth and its inhabitants, is to find the strongest opponent he can and test his abilities. Jiren is presented to be even stronger than a God Of Destruction, and he proved it very well in the tournament. Comment. 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For a long time, the Super Saiyan technique has been Goku’s bread and butter, but believe it or not, he actually has another, even more powerful form. Anyway, Goku fought Beerus at the beginning of DBS (he didn't even know the Super Saiyan God). And though only a short amount of time has gone by, Goku is stronger than both of them. In fact, just a few days ago, a possible spoiler was announced that almost went unnoticed. Beerus, Broly, Jiren, Goku. Using Jiren as a key as he's the only character Goku has fought that's seemingly comparable to Beerus. Why Goku May Be Stronger Than Beerus Now This would certainly be considered an immense spoiler. Dragon Ball Super Episode 111 shows Jiren (Post Ultra Instinct Goku) VS Hit! His words are the following: "It would also be prudent to remember that there could be someone much stronger than Jiren out there," and then he laughs the laughter that characterizes him, emphasizing that he continues to hide many things. Current UI Omen Goku is massively stronger than the one from the ToP and Moro was even stronger than … When Jiren shows up, it's heavily implied he's the one mortal stronger than GoD, which would likely include Beerus. No, Infact Vegito basically gets ass raped. Since Beerus is stronger than Jiren, if he is close enough to use Hakai against him, then chances are that Jiren will suffer defeat. Think about this: Goku is able to keep up with Beerus as SSG “red,” a form in which he literally couldn’t touch Jiren. The fact that Beerus still disagrees with you and thinks he is still better than Goku, means you need to drop with your headcannon that Jiren and Goku are stronger than Beerus. Facts. via: dragonball.wikia.com. As the DC Universe's flagship superhero, Superman is one of the most recognizable, powerful superheroes in the entire comic book medium. After few seconds, Jiren got up and blasted Goku. Several times higher than Fusion dance. 10 Stronger: Ultra Instinct Goku Jiren was a wall of power at the Tournament of Power where Goku had to break his limits and achieve Ultra Instinct in order to beat him. Dude is probably the strongest amongst the gods. Berus' does not feel that way towards the other god of destructions. Maybe Goku MUI is stronger than Jiren, but not so much. Also, Goku said that Broly might be stronger than Beerus, while it was suggested by comments made in Dragon Ball Super that Beerus was greatly eclipsed by Jiren. People don’t seem to realize just how much Goku has increased in power since the ToP, they’re absolutely incomparable! In fact he was having trouble keeping up with Goku’s speed in that form! I'm talking about ANIME of DBS, not manga (there are some differences). Taking that into account, it leads us to wonder who could be the stronger warrior. The possibility that Jiren is stronger than Fused Zamasu is huge. Goku is stronger than Gohan in the manga series. Besides, even if Goku can use UI, I don’t consider him to have fully mastered it since he can transform at will or maintain it for a prolonged time. Facts. Share Share Tweet Email. To assume that SSB Goku is stronger than Jiren is to assume that current UIO Goku is several times stronger than Jiren, who has already established himself as a solid GoD tier (he is stronger than the GoD of his universe, and as we saw in the exhibition match the GoDs are at similar levels). We have yet to see Broly or Beerus in their strongest form either. #dragonball #gamer #gameplay #gaming #DBFZ #DragonBallFighterZ #FGC. Most characters can’t match his powers in the series, and only the Grand Priest and Zeno are known to be stronger than him. Nonetheless, in this post, we are going to state the reason why Vegeta was stronger than Goku in season 1 of super anime and the manga version if Goku did have Kaioken and Ultra Instinct. In episode 109, whis confirms that Jiren was the mortal he was talking about. Broly who was def stated stronger than Jiren was only said probably stronger than Beerus, which put Beerus above Jiren. Beerus is way stronger than we think. If Jiren were to fight Broly, it feels quite plausible that the more … On the level of Gods of Destruction and maybe even stronger! So, Beerus can easily do that too. Whis, reveal to us that Goku was utilizing his Super Super Saiyan Bule Kaioken x20 against Jiren which is far stronger than Vegeta’s Super Saiyan Blue. Jiren's universe was supposed to be one of the stronger ones. Our discord: https://discord.gg/44H3kJx, Press J to jump to the feed. Now the situation is different, he is much stronger than before (with Blue + Kaioken and MUI). Then you put Base Toppo=>Blue Goku when the anime also made it cleat that Goku was stronger, he was winning that fight Toppo is the one that powered up first and Goku responded in kind. Kaio ken hurts but he can do it on purpose. It will be an extremely powerful subject, created of course by the Toriyama himself. As a result, Goku has been on the receiving end of many beatings throughout the series, but he usually always finds a way to get past his latest foe. A discussion-dedicated Dragon Ball subreddit. Facts. LB Jiren, while arguably stronger than MUI Goku, lost to MUI Goku due to Goku's skill in UI. Nov 13, 2017 #5 Judging from Berus's reaction, his cock is getting hard and ready to fight Goku. according to Diazenzhuu. While Jiren is very powerful, there is absolutely no denying that Goku can take him down in the Mastered Ultra Instinct state, although for Goku, achieving that form once again has been a challenge ever since. 8 Can Defeat: Hit However, Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x20 Goku was still not enough to harm or hurt Jiren in the battle. We have seen Jiren trashing SSB Goku in the latest preview. So the answer is no (Hold on, we’ll tell you why). Anyway, Goku fought Beerus at the beginning of DBS (he didn't even know the Super Saiyan God). 0. My opinion is based on what has been shown in the Anime/Manga. Just prior to the tournament, he fought Top to a stalemate, which was discouraging at the time because he was told that Top was weaker than Jiren. Can Beerus beat Whis? Goku is now so far above what he was before. MUI Goku was beating the shit out of limit break Jiren what are you guys talking about? Anyway, Goku fought Beerus at the beginning of DBS (he didn't even know the Super Saiyan God). When Jiren shows up, it's heavily implied he's the one mortal stronger than GoD, which would likely include Beerus. Potara was a fusion so powerful it was even stronger than SSJ3 goku in base form. Blasting News is working with the European Union in the fight against fake news. Beerus, Broly, Jiren, Goku. Until I see Goku defeat Beerus, Jiren, Broly on a 1v1. I absolutely think Jiren is stronger than all the GoDs. 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